[PodcastMN] iChat vs. Skype

Wed Aug 29 16:28:25 GMT 2007

Tim -- like the idea of a wiki to capture stuff but would suggest phpbb or
some other open source forum.

Graeme -- you should also think about Talkshoe. Tim Elliott has used 'em,
Leo Laporte uses it with Amber Macarthur for Net at Nite and -- most
importantly to me -- they're adding Skype, 16khz sampling rate to their
offering so that anyone on Skype can call-in and the recording can capture
higher quality voice.

~Steve

On 8/29/07, Graeme Fehr <weirdcookie at turkeyvan.com> wrote:
>
>  sweet, thank you Michael and Steve for the comments!
>
> I just started using AHP after using Nicecast for about a year (made by
> the same company as AHP, but with the broadcast feature), but  when doing
> the live show using stickam.com (or ustream.tv in the next couple monts),
> there is more uploading than downloading and my internet & CPU seems to
> suffer.
>
> The nice thing i'm noticing about AHP but i havn't worked with yet is the
> mutli-recording multi-output function, so i'd be able to tweak the skype
> call to at least make it better sounding for the podcast mix.
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> *From:* Steve Borsch <steve at iconnectdots.com>
> *To:* Graeme Fehr <weirdcookie at turkeyvan.com>
> *Cc:* podcastmn at lists.podcastmn.com
> *Sent:* Wednesday, August 29, 2007 11:00 AM
> *Subject:* Re: [PodcastMN] iChat vs. Skype
>
>
> Hi Graeme,
>
> I've used both Skype and iChat extensively and have recorded them both
> (even with video...but I digress). Two ways to do it for audio:
>
> 1) The easy way is with Audio Hijack Pro (http://www.rogueamoeba.com/audiohijackpro/)
> or Wiretap (http://www.ambrosiasw.com/utilities/wiretap/). I've had the
> best success with AHP so that is my recommendation. They have set up a
> no-brainer quick Skype or iChat recording function and have detailed a
> how-to on their web site:
> http://www.rogueamoeba.com/audiohijackpro/manual/English.lproj/help_ATrecordingchat.htmland you can also download a demo so you can try it out first.
>
> There are other software solutions (like CallRecorder:
> http://www.ecamm.com/mac/callrecorder/) but they're limited and you won't
> be able to grow with them as you get better. The kicker with AHP is that as
> you grow and become more sophisticated in what you want to accomplish, AHP
> has deep and highly functional capabilities that you can spend hours playing
> with to get a more perfect sound and geek-out with routing audio signals!
>
> 2) Setting up a "mix minus" from your mixer or Firewire/USB box so that
> you can record the iChatters or Skypers on one channel and you on the other
> channel so you can fix any problems or normalize audio levels in post. My
> preference is to record *both* an internal recording on my Mac with AHP
> *and* a backup recording out to my M-Audio Microtrack to make certain I've
> captured it and there are no hiccups. Saved my bacon twice when doing
> sessions for one of my clients earlier this year.
>
> (By the way, I've set up a new user account on my Mac called "clean user"
> just for audio recording. The only thing that runs is AHP and either iChat
> or Skype so NOTHING else is running and interfering with the recording
> process. I also open Activity Monitor (in your Utilities folder...hit
> Command-1 to open the current running processes) to make sure that some
> system-wide process isn't running that's eating up CPU time or causing disk
> activity like Apple's Backup program. Once you've done this stuff to setup
> recordings a couple of times, it literally takes just a few minutes to get
> completely setup and running for recording. There have been times that I've
> started a recording session on-the-fly since someone has asked me to do so
> in a conference session and, since I've done it several times, I don't even
> think much about it anymore since the workflow is ingrained in my brain).
>
> The audio guru Doug Kaye has three excellent posts on Skype recording --
> with the first two telling you how to setup a mix-minus for (either iChat
> or) Skype recording -- with his latest post being fabulous if you want to
> get REALLY great Skype recording without those annoying digital "hiccups" --
> since the two of you will have an incentive to tweak your own networks and
> connections to get better-n-better results:
>
> a) Interviews via Skype:
>
> http://www.blogarithms.com/index.php/archives/2005/07/14/interviews-via-skype/
>
> b) Interviews via Skype revisited:
>
> http://www.blogarithms.com/index.php/archives/2005/07/22/interviews-via-skype-revisited/
>
> c) Recording Skype interviews:
> http://www.blogarithms.com/index.php/archives/2007/07/09/skype2/
>
>
> NOTE: for those of you wanting to explore Skype recording software
> solutions, here's a great page:
> http://labnol.blogspot.com/2006/06/how-to-record-skype-conversations.html
>
> Hope this helps.
>
> --
> Steve Borsch
> Direct/Mobile: 952.486.7678 <callto:+19524867678>
> Email: Steve at iConnectDots.com
> Blog: http://www.iConnectDots.com
> Podcast: http://www.iConnectDots.com/podcasts/
>
> On 8/29/07, Graeme Fehr <weirdcookie at turkeyvan.com> wrote:
> >
> >  If someone has some info or can point me to a disscussion forum, that'd
> > be cool.
> >
> > Has anyone used iChat as a means of a conference call vs. a skype call?
> > Frosty and I are doing the show cross-country now and Skype has it's
> > upsides, but also has it's downsides...
> >
> > Can you use iChat using AIM, or do you have to have a .mac account to
> > make this work?
> >
> > And if iChat is a means of doing it, with it being based on the AIM
> > server rather than skype, would it run smoother at times or does it matter
> > how many people on a port?
> >
> > Thanks in advance.
> >
> >
> > -----
> > Graeme Fehr
> > ----
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